Our subreddit has grown CONSIDERABLY in the last year - 2018 was a huge year for the zerocarb carnivore movement, and it started through the success of World Carnivore Month at the beginning of 2018! Tens of thousands of people joined Facebook groups, and 50,000 people subscribed to this subreddit! Hundreds are talking about the carnivore diet on Twitter - you can see if someone is a carnivore by checking if they have ©️ in their name, like mine! hyper©️arnivore
Surprisingly, this is a very old diet that has centuries of history. http://highsteaks.com/carnivores-creed/owsley-the-bear-stanley/
We have multiple doctors not only suggesting that people try a carnivorous zerocarb diet, but are even doing it themselves and realizing they too have been conned by the health and nutrition establishment.
Doctors such as:
Supporting evidence that the following doctors recommend Carnivore Diet or close to it. https://www.reddit.com/usedem0n0cracy/comments/addz0l/doctors_discuss_the_carnivore_diet/ https://www.reddit.com/usedem0n0cracy/comments/ade16i/more_doctors_pharmacists_researchers_phds/
Dr. Shawn Baker - u/shawnbaker1967 https://twitter.com/SBakerMD
Dr. Ken D Berry https://twitter.com/KenDBerryMD
Dr. Jay Wrigley https://twitter.com/KetoDocCLT
Dr. Anthony Jay https://twitter.com/anthonygjay
Dr. Kevin Stock https://twitter.com/kevinstock12
Dr. Christian Assad https://twitter.com/ChristianAssad
Dr. Paul Saladino https://twitter.com/MDSaladino
Dr. Robert Pastore https://twitter.com/RP5hydroxy
Dr. David Unwin https://twitter.com/lowcarbGP
Dr. Michael Eades M.D. https://twitter.com/DrEades
Dr. Tro Kalayjian - u/DoctorTro https://twitter.com/DoctorTro
Dr. Paul Mason https://twitter.com/DrPaulMason
Dr. Csaba Toth https://twitter.com/paleoketogenic
Dr. Anthony Chaffee https://twitter.com/anthony_chaffee
Dr. Georgia Ede diagnosisdiet.com https://twitter.com/GeorgiaEdeMD
Dr. Ted Naiman https://twitter.com/tednaiman
Dr. Gary Fettke https://twitter.com/FructoseNo
Dr. Ben Bikman https://twitter.com/BenBikmanPhD
Dr. Peter Ballerstedt https://twitter.com/GrassBased
Dr. Nevada Gray https://twitter.com/GrayNevada
Dr. Gabrielle Lyon https://twitter.com/drgabriellelyon
Dr. Bret Scher https://twitter.com/bschermd
Dr. Paul Mabry
Dr. Darren Schmidt - D.C. https://twitter.com/realfoodcures
Dr. Steven Horwitz - D.C. https://twitter.com/DrHorwitz
Dr. Cameron Sepah https://Twitter.com/DrSepah
Dr. David Baldes M.D. https://twitter.com/ketoshrink/status/1081763193536634881?s=21
Nutritionist Amy Berger https://twitter.com/TuitNutrition
Professor Timothy Noakes https://twitter.com/ProfTimNoakes
Professor Stuart Phillips https://twitter.com/mackinprof
Journalist Nina Teicholz https://twitter.com/bigfatsurprise
Ph.D candidate Miki Ben-Dor https://twitter.com/bendormiki
Facebook Groups have grown substantially! https://www.facebook.com/groups/worldcarnivoretribe/
- World Carnivore Tribe started by Dr. Shawn Baker https://www.facebook.com/groups/zioh2/
- Zeroing In On Health started by Charles Washington 8 years ago https://www.facebook.com/groups/PrincipiaCarnivora/
- Principia Carnivora started by Michael Frieze 3 years ago https://www.facebook.com/groups/160488851347176/
- 100% Carnivore...and Beyond! started by Phil Escott this year https://www.facebook.com/groups/1685052231589351/
- Carnivore Paleolithic Ketogenic Diet Support Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/482045862179951/
- Carnivore/Keto Diet https://www.facebook.com/groups/509414366151670/?ref=group_header
- Autistic Carnivores https://www.facebook.com/groups/animalfatrx/
- Animal Fat RX https://www.facebook.com/groups/191667651770756/
- RAW-some Zero Carb Carnivore Sanctuary https://www.facebook.com/groups/womencarnivoretribe/
- Women Carnivore Tribe https://www.facebook.com/groups/meathealth/
- Carnivore Corner https://www.facebook.com/groups/KetoCarnivoreIF/
- Keto Carnivore IF https://www.facebook.com/groups/zerocarbdoc/
- Zero Carb Doc started by Dr. Paul Mabry https://www.facebook.com/groups/661617567520427/
- Zero Carb: Living the Good Life
The Carnivore Diet for Mankind - HD - Star - Emoji Advice of what to eat / drink, Polls, Podcasts, Books - Zoom in to see the small text in this HD photo https://i.redd.it/qftzcf3if4k11.png
Homo Carnivorus - Part 1 : https://i.redd.it/xnmqrewisd221.png
Homo Carnivorus - Part 2 : https://i.redd.it/z7vjpfcksd221.png
StarChart - https://i.redd.it/789n61b45e221.png
CarnivoreDietAdvice - https://i.redd.it/31ud3dj65e221.png
Podcasts - https://i.redd.it/0rw60z785e221.png
Books - https://i.redd.it/k0074of95e221.png
Polls - https://i.redd.it/yqeribea5e221.png
- Read about The Bear - who coined the 'zerocarb' nomenclature and did the diet for 53 years until his untimely death in a car accident. https://justmeat.co
- Michael Goldstein @bitstein https://meat.health/
- Dr. Kevin Stock https:///meatheals.com
- N=1 Anecdotes (@bitstein and @sbakermd run it) https://zerocarbzen.com/testimonials/ https://ketogenicendurance.com/category/carnivore-diet-success-stories/ http://www.empiri.ca/p/eat-meat-not-too-little-mostly-fat.html
- L Amber O'Hearn http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/
- Dr Georgia Ede http://highsteaks.com/f/index.php/board,5.0/sort,views/desc.html
- Tons of old forum posts about various topics! http://mikhailapeterson.com/
- Don't Eat That! Blog A history of Nutrition Science
Part 1 (1785-1885): http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/3/638.abstract
Part 2 (1885-1912): http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/4/975.full
Part 3 (1912-1944): http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/10/3023.full
Part 4 (1945-1985): http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/11/3331.full
" I like to go back and re-read these articles on occasion to refresh my understanding of the Keto lifestyle. Many people aren't aware there there is a long unbroken string of professionals that have been using low carbohydrate interventions to combat obesity dating all the way back to the 1860s. This is by no means an exhaustive list, but rather shows a "lineage of thinking" that got us to where we are today. Some of these publications are hard to find now, so I leave them here for you to enjoy:
Books Giant Booklist! https://www.reddit.com/ketoscience/wiki/index
- The Fat of the Land by Vilhjalmur Stefansson (1956, 7 reviews, 4.5 stars)
- The Story of the Human Body: Evolution, Health, and Disease by Daniel Lieberman
- Strong Medicine by Blake Donaldson (1962) PDF
- The Stone-Age Diet by Voegtlin (1975) PDF
- Imagining Head Smashed In by Jack W Brink (2008) PDF
- The Perfect Human Diet: The Simple Doctor-Proven Solution for the Health and Life you Deserve by CJ Hunt
- Nourishing Fats: Why We Need Animal Fats for Health and Happiness by Sally Fallon Morell
- Chasing Antelopes by Robin J Willcourt (2016, 2 reviews, 4 stars)
- The Mindful Carnivore: A Vegetarian's Hunt for Sustenance by Tovar Cerulli (2013, 44 reviews, 4.6 stars)
- Carnivore Minds: Who These Fearsome Animals Really Are by G. A. Bradshaw (2017, 5 reviews, 4.6 stars)
- We Want to Live January 1, 1997 by Aajonus Vonderplanitz
- The Relation of Alimentation and Disease by J. H. Salisbury, M.D. [PDF]
- What Must I Do To Get Well? And How Can I Keep It So? by Elma Stuart [PDF]
- Dr. Newbold’s Type A/Type B Weight Loss Book by H. L. Newbold, M.D. [PDF]
- The Diet of the Mountain Men by William E Holsten [PDF]
- Guts and Grease: The Diet of the Native Americans by Sally Fallon and Mary G. Enig, PhD
- The Plant Paradox: The Hidden Dangers in "Healthy" Foods That Cause Disease and Weight Gain by Dr. Steven R Gundry M.D.
Frank Tufano https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIEiE-hnAUXUZNNeMJsZBYA/videos
Shawn Baker https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5apkKkeZQXRSDbqSalG8CQ/videos
Low Carb Down Under https://www.youtube.com/uselowcarbdownundevideos
Primal Edge Health https://www.youtube.com/usePrimalEdgeHealth/videos
Dr. Eric Berg DC https://www.youtube.com/usedrericberg123/videos
Ancestry Foundation https://www.youtube.com/useAncestryFoundation/videos
The Raw Primal Family https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZx7e6GWv49UiSBkpzpqoUA/videos
Daphne Reloaded https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOkEtmLmlugiPN9hH8u9Zyg/videos
Thomas DeLauer https://www.youtube.com/useTheTdelauevideos
The Weston A Price Foundation https://www.youtube.com/useTheWestonAPrice/videos
Dr. Darren Schmidt https://www.youtube.com/useNutritionalHealingA2/videos
Phil Escott https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcHEYrfmQH-5RxiFL5RD08g/videos
Ken D Berry MD https://www.youtube.com/useKenDBerry/videos
Physicians for Ancestral Health https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCijY61FN3AtDWSbrRj9nYqA/videos
Public Health Collaboration https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZO0WD6hn02_6b0_MNTKPgQ
Fat Fueled Family - Danny Vega https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBWrXQozj8I
Crohn's Colitis Vitality https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfnYhj9llnBS78vM8jwtNCA
Vegetable Police https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFuLNktnqqBEF_9ZcmjC_bw
What I've Learned https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqYPhGiB9tkShZorfgcL2lA
Tuit Nutrition - Amy Berger https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmDz-SYYhoerycynsCm7L8g
Keto Connect https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzRYivTpUQ0r2qPPjfLoQiA
Full Range Strength - Don Matesz https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZHoeDSpHN1bBWXsqSgaeuw
Dr. Nick Zyrowski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o_WpYz0gso
Dr. Paul Saladino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg1P0buUrv4
Autism and the Carnivore Diet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ME6nGWxcQ&t=1s
Rob Stuart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk5R_invOWQ
Human Performance Outliers (Dr. Shawn Baker and Zach Bitter) http://humanperformanceoutliers.libsyn.com/
Peak Human https://www.peak-human.com/
BioHackers Lab https://www.biohackerslab.com/
Fitness Confidential https://vinnietortorich.com/tag/fitness-confidential/
Low Carb Cardiologist with Dr. Bret Scher https://lowcarbcardiologist.com/
Diet Doctor Podcast (has video) https://www.dietdoctor.com/the-diet-doctor-podcast-is-now-on-itunes-apple-podcasts
Dr. Peter Attia - The Drive https://peterattiamd.com/podcast/
2 Keto Dudes http://2ketodudes.com/
The Keto Savage http://ketosavage.com/podcasts/
Low Carb MD http://www.lowcarbmd.com/
Zero Carb Journal https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/zero-carb-journal/id1328453741
Crowd Funded Science
Get a $169 TeloMere kit and do the Carnivore Diet strictly for 3 months and then send in results(or don't)! https://www.ajconsultingcompany.com/carnivoredietstudy.html nequalsmany.com
Free tracking app designed for Carnivore Diet
In the News! ABC News Good Morning America : What to know about the trendy, meat-only 'carnivory' diet By ABC NEWS
Jul 27, 2018, 8:51 AM ETSFChronicle - Tech workers seeking an edge on peers turn to all-meat ‘carnivore diet’ INC: Steak Is the New Salad: Why These Techies Are Embracing an All-Meat Diet Your Coinbase account should be accompanied by steak and bacon, according to these cryptocurrency luminaries.
Sept 22, 2017 Vice : Inside the World of the 'Bitcoin Carnivores' Why a small community of Bitcoin users is eating meat exclusively.
Sept 29th, 2017 Global News Canada : Danielle Smith: If you want to improve your health, eat more meat
January 12, 2018 INC: I Ate Nothing but Meat for 2 Weeks. Here's What It Was Like @sonyaellenmann The Guardian: They mock vegans and eat 4lb of steak a day: meet 'carnivore dieters' An extreme, all animal-based diet is gaining followers in search of heightened productivity, mental clarity, and a boosted libido. But experts express doubts @oliviasolon
Fri 11 May 2018 04.00 EDT National Post: Meat, meat, and more meat: Extreme, animal-only 'carnivore diet' gaining followers Enthusiasts of the all-meat diet include a group of self-proclaimed 'bitcoin carnivores'
May 15, 2018 Healthline : This Woman Says Meat-Only Diet Eased Her Autoimmune Disease Symptoms Mikhaila Peterson took the keto diet one extra step by eliminating veggies and eating only meat. She says it cured several illnesses. Experts aren’t convinced. Written by Gigen Mammoser on June 3, 2018 PureWow : What Is the Carnivore Diet (and Should You Try It)? By ALEXIA DELLNER
| JUN. 27, 2018 'Vegans Are Sacks Of Sh*t But They Are Winning' Carnivore Ex-Doc Blasts
Jul 18, 2018 NYPost : New diet claims you can lose weight eating only steak and burgers
July 24, 2018 Eggs and bacon for breakfast, burgers for lunch, steak for dinner: Man says ‘carnivore diet’ has helped him lose weight
POSTED 8:50 PM, JULY 29, 2018, BY FOX NEWS WIRE SERVICE
, BuzzFeed News : Jordan Peterson Says Meat Cured His Depression. Now His Daughter Will Tell You How It Healed Her Too — For A Fee.
Posted on July 31, 2018 PopSci : Please do not try to survive on an all-meat diet By Sara Chodosh August 2, 2018 The Daily Meal: The Carnivore Diet Is the Wildest Weight Loss Craze of All Time
August 3, 2018 By Holly Van Hare Repost to News.Com.Au : New diet claims you can lose weight eating only steaks and burgers
AUGUST 5, 2018 PETA Takes Life Insurance Policy Out On A Carnivore Dieter, Hopes To Turn Him Vegan I'm a Registered Dietitian and I Really Don't Want You to Eat a Carnivore Diet
August 7th, 2018 TRENDS TO TOSS (OR MODERATE) IN 2019 CARNIVORE DIET
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Upcoming Conferences on Low Carb, Keto, Carnivore
- Physicians for Ancestral Health (PAH) - Scottsdale, AZ January 24, 2019 https://youtu.be/HH47HyAARiQ?t=2260 Non-physicians welcome.
- Low Carb and Healthy Living Expo 2019 - South Carolina January 26, 2019 1 Exposition Dr, Greenville, SC 29607, USAhttps://www.evensi.us/carb-healthy-living-expo-1-exposition-dr-greenville-south-carolina-29607/260504179
- Metabolic Health SummitJanuary 31, 2019111 E Ocean Blvd, Long Beach, CA 90802, USA https://www.lowcarbevents.com/event/metabolic-health-summit/
- Boulder Carnivore Conference March 7, 2019 Rembrandt Yard, 1301 Spruce St, Boulder, CO 80302, USA https://www.lowcarbevents.com/event/the-boulder-carnivore-conference/
- Low Carb Denver 2019 March 7, 2019 6700 North Gaylord Rockies Boulevard Aurora, CO 80019 United States https://www.lowcarbevents.com/event/low-carb-denver-2019/
Someone had asked why I circlejerk bc here.
First off, I do appreciate the technology behind buttcoin. It's pretty amazing that in essence some crazy savant created a system where people are putting faith into a sequence of numbers that were solved by a shit load of computing power (faith as in billions now). In this case the primary motivator is libertarian ideals. Free flow of capital, lack of state interference, lack of inflation, and the "freedom" to do what you want with your loot.
I can also see a whole host of applications for cryptocurrincies in the future, especially in despotic countries, or for organizations like wikileaks. Currency is a form of expression and in our world the rich and powerful can cut off that expression all to easily. Shitty PP's like paypal are robber barron's of the internet, ripping people off and giving them nothing. Credit Cards are horrific oligopolys with literally no feasible way of beating them. Oiligopolies act as monopolists if you go back to econ 101. Fuck those fuckers. All of them. They take a disproportionate amount of the common man's flesh. When I first started looking at BTC, I thought that it could solve a lot of these problems, scare the shit out of these assholes and keep groups like wikileaks or people like snowden from going tits up.
Great. I was intrigued and got on board pretty early - years ago.
However, once you go down the rabbit hole, or get a finance degree, you start to see some chinks in the armour. Things that are totally derrived from libertarian ideals eventually lead to movies like "Black Hawk Down" or "Wall Street". There's a reason God invented regulations and laws.
a) A finite number of bitcoins were a clever solution to bootstrap the currency. Satoshi was fucking smart to do this, since everyone knew that the supply would dry up. At the beginning it wasn't a huge deal since you're looking at 10's of millions of digits that were worth exactly shit. However, in the off chance the primordial soup started to form some amino acids, that finite number would would prove to be the single most important aspect of why we're seeing what we see.
While no doubt there were plenty of people who tossed away, diced, bought pizza and so forth, when the prices started to surge things changed. People were scooping up 7950's not to meet market demand, but to speculate about future increases in value
. Mining became so ridiculous that PC's were useless and ASIC miners were the only feasible platform. You had BFL, which was so lulzy that they took BTC for their bullshit boards, waited a year in some cases while their BTC appreciated and in essence made people pay multiples more for their bullshit product because they took BTC, never delivered and the customers couldn't mine.
This brings me to my point (a). Why the fuck would you sell your BTC at time (x), if you know that at time (Y) its going to be worth more? there will be less BTC injected into the market at time Y
, so your BTC should be worth more down the road. Solution? Hoard your BTC
. Eventually, for all practical purposes, the spigot will be as good as zero. No more buttcoins will be coming out. Now I know the literal zero date is 2100 or some bullshit, but that's semantics and marginal returns have waaaay kicked in. And I don't deny that there are useful applications for cryptocurrencies, any spike in demand we see results in increased pressure.
b) On the flip side of the bitcoin though, is that everyone who holds BTC is playing musical chairs. It's no different than any market, anywhere else on the face of the planet. You're waiting to be the last fool off the ship. The ridiculous rise that we just saw was bound to pop. There are so few instances in life that can justify what we saw in the past few weeks. So few applications, markets, business, commodities that can justify that kind of growth. Yes, even BTC can't justify that kind of growth. It was inevitable that you'd see that 40-50 percent pop. But wait a minute, bitcoin
will still say "I'm up 1 million fucking percent since 2009" or some shit. Maybe so and good for you, but what this volatility proves is my next point: BTC is the worst fucking currency ever conceived of
c) a currency must be a stable medium
of exchange, that is to say a common ether so that we don't have to barter with each other : http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mediumofexchange.asp
OH WAIT, except that BTC is so fucking volatile, you might as well fucking use cows or chickens, as they would probably have a more stable, measurable value than BTC. Hmm, actually pork looks far less variable and a better medium http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/PB/
d) As a currency you need to have a unit of account http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unit+of+account
Picture this: you're running the Bitcoin cafe, since NeckBeard McFedora just told you it's a great payment system. You just accepted 100,000K in bitcoin last month for your coffee sales. Your accountant assumes that these great 100K bitcoins will be worth 100K by next week when he uses the reliable MtGox website to cash his loot out to USD. But wait! BTC loses 50 percent of value, and your coffee bean supplier happens to work for Tony Soprano - he's not taking your -50 percent BTC. Meanwhile, the guy down the street accepted USD one month ago and guess what? His 100K in coffee sales are worth about 100K bitcoin
has told me many times quote : oh but we'll use intermediates who will hedge (use derivatives) to reduce volatility so that people can safely buy and sell at stable prices. So, you'll need another paypal or intermediate for this "free currency"? and you think people will take your risk on for free? risk != free. Remember why this whole fucking thing was started? As a business owner I would stuff your BTC up your asshole if I lost 50 percent in a few days, or if I had to get insurance on a fucking currency. I'd sooner take Mastercard's 4 points than go through that bullshit.
As a business owner I'm not in the business of speculating on currency. Not my fucking job. I build widgets or bikes of pimp hoes. Not currency. http://www.amosweb.com/cgi-bin/awb_nav.pl?s=wpd&c=dsp&k=unit+of+account
"Using money as the unit of account for prices also provides a measure of value--how much value buyers and sellers place on a good. If a Deluxe Club Sandwich carries a $5 price, while a Live Headless Squirrels music CD sells for $10 each, then a relative a measure of each commodity can be had. Buyers place twice the value on the Live Headless Squirrels music CD than on the Deluxe Club Sandwich. Buyers are willing to give up twice as much money to buy a Live Headless Squirrels music CD as to acquire a Deluxe Club Sandwich. Sellers incur twice the opportunity cost of producing a Live Headless Squirrels music CD as the cost of producing a Deluxe Club Sandwich.
This is the reason that money functions as a measure of value. Because money is commonly accepted in payment for all goods and services, because money is the universal medium of exchange, prices provide a relative comparison of value."
You cannot judge OPCOST if the fucking currency yoyo's like Pam Anderson's tits on a roller-coaster.
Anyway, longpost is long. And I have no doubt this is all very debatable, like all my ex-wives. A few last things: http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
In the last ten years you would have lost 26ish percent had you put your cash in your floorboards. Fucking communists! But wait! You're not supposed to use currency as a long term investment. Not a good fucking idea. I've dealt with wealthy people my entire life. And they NEVER have gobs of real cash sitting in BOA banking account for this very reason.
Contrary to Ron Paul, the fucking Mises Institute (?), and other nut jobs, REASONABLE
inflation is actually a good thing
Why, Augustus you fucking pinko communist nazi mothefucker?
- Fiat currencies (which bitcoin isn't I concede, but obviously was the partial impetus behind btc) are literally worthless if you put it under your pillow. They are literally useless unless they have motion behind them. Having a stack of 100's in your pillow doesn't build bridges, invest in new porno websites, cancer hospitals or buy weed from British Columbia. All of which help sustain the economy. People react to stimuli. In this case, the stimuli happens to be inflation. Keep your wealth in dollars and you'll have less of them, invest them and you'll have more of them, hopefully. Libertarians fucking hate this, they reject it, they reject that it works, they reject the lot of it. And so bitcoin was born. Fuck the fed, fuck the man. Fuck the evil Rothschilds and evil rich cocksuckers who manipulate our money supply so that we have less and less each year. But really, http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ 26 percent over ten years is pretty modest. Most conservative investments would have kept your bucks at par or better.
- Bitcoin on the other hand, is encouraging people NOT to invest in the economy. That finite number of BTC is again stimuli. It's signalling users that hey there's a scarce amount in the world and hey there's been these huge jumps in prices. Next time it goes down, IM ALL IN. So we'll see this ridiculous volatility, while merchants will slowly catch on that it's probably a bad fucking idea to accept these things when there's clearly a big fucking BTC bubble (see above as to why it's a bad idea). And so we'll see this cyclical up and down. This deflationary spiral of people keeping BTC in their pants so that they can make money off the next guy will not be conducive to it being a futuristic currency. The silk road was never BTC's Achilles heal, it was built into the system.
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